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Donnerstag, 6. Oktober 2005, 20:34

Too Human

Weshalb gibt es hierzu noch keinen thread?

das spiel schein doch recht gut auszusehen und sollte eigentlich schon für die playse und den gamecube erscheinen. doch letztendlich kommt es auf der überkonsole x360 :D
meiner meinung nach die richtige entscheidung :]

hier gibts ein filmchen und auch ein paar bilder zum spiel bilder und video

habt ihr matrix 2+3 gesehen? der optik stiel des games erinnert mich ein wenig daran.
mal sehen ob matthias noch was von der x05 berichten kann.
wäre cool, wenn er auch ein filmchen und ein paar neue bilder zu zeigen hat und natürlich was über das spiel berichten könnte.

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Donnerstag, 6. Oktober 2005, 21:10

kaum schreibt man was schon folgt die antwort, der front... front news

hier auch noch ein kleines preview klick

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Donnerstag, 6. Oktober 2005, 21:36

frei nach unserem indirekten motto: front machts prompt ;-)

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Samstag, 8. Oktober 2005, 14:15

Das sieht ja ganz lustig aus. Vor allem is es cool das man auch in den Nahkampf kann. :D Son bisschen wie Devil May Cry. 8)

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Samstag, 8. Oktober 2005, 20:20

ja dieser devil may cry touch macht das game, wenn es denn ach so gespielt wird erst noch richtig interessant.
errinnert mich im nachhinein, aber auch ein wenig an hellgate london.
dort kämpft man ja auch mit schusswaffen und nahkampfwaffen. bin mal gespannt wie das spiel wird. oder naja, wie beide spiele werden. sehen ja alle beide vielverprechend aus :]

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Sonntag, 9. Oktober 2005, 15:53

year das schaut ja ganz gut aus.
ich habe bissher aber noch ned viel von dem game gehört...
Reden ist Silber, schreien ist Gold...

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Sonntag, 9. Oktober 2005, 17:12

Zitat

Original von master jens
ich habe bissher aber noch ned viel von dem game gehört...


Sollte vorerst für den Cube erscheinen. Hier mal "alte" News von Anfang 2003:

Zitat

Im IGN Forum wurde ein Interview mit Denis Dyack von Silicon Knights veröffentlicht, darin verrät er einiges zu Too Human, viel Spass beim lesen :D

Here is more info on Too Human from Denis Dyack Q&A (note, not all questions are shown):

Denis: We want people to have the perfect aesthetic experience when they play a game. Our goal is to engross people, to have them feel and live in the environment that we've created. We want people to learn something, we want people to appreciate our artistic vision of what we're talking about. That's the goal of every game we make. In order to do that, you have to focus on gameplay, story, music, sound effects, graphics, and technology. Having all these factors is key to having a great game.

Denis: Too Human is a futuristic psychological thriller. It's a real-time adventure game that mixes elements of role-playing, like Kain, cinematography like Final Fantasy, and a solid storyline. Too Human is also very much like Metal Gear Solid where we give the player the option to explore things the way he wants to and be stealth if he wants to, or be action packed if he wants to. That's the best way I would describe it. We really think it's going to break the mold on a lot of games. We've never seen a single game that's similar to it out there, quite frankly. It's role-playing under the surface. Maybe some people would classify it as adventure. We classify it as...what would be a really neat experience in the future. What would it be like in the year 2450? Well, this is what we think it's like.

Denis: The level of interaction between the NPCs is not something we really focused on. There's definitely going to be communication between you and NPCs, no question there. But is that a major element of the game? No, not really. The major role-playing elements in the game are how you improve as you go through missions and use weapons more. Beyond the typical role-playing of using a weapons more and getting better, you can also cybernetically enhance yourself. So if you get an optical implant, your targeting will be faster, better, and more accurate. There's almost a two-way branch in which you can improve yourself through the role-playing. Beyond that, there's a very, very intricate story. And it's non-linear -- you affect the game as you play. That's what I think makes the role-playing aspect stand our apart from a lot of other games. I know at some level some games do a little bit of these, we've done them altogether. And, of course, the immersion factor of the environments, cinematics, voice over -- you really get to feel and hear how John Franks feels as he's going through the level.

Denis: One of the things that's going on that may not be apparent through the cinematics, at the beginning of the game, you're going in undercover into Aesir. You're an undercover police officer infiltrating a corporation into their security forces to investigate another corporation.

There's a lot under the surface going on. So you've got to report back to your police lieutenant. We talk about crime, and what law enforcement would be like in the future. So all those aspects as well make it multi-dimensional. There are a lot of levels there. As well, there's flashes of strange creatures all around, and it all makes sense. There are no loose ends, it's all tied together.

Another thing about Too Human as well is that it si founded on principles of hard science. We discuss orbital strings, and many other technologies. We're not going for a "space opera," we are going for science fiction that is grounded in true science. So there are a lot of things to learn. It's going to be interesting. We're not saying that space opera is bad -- obviously, Star Wars is a good example of a space opera. It's just that's not the direction we chose to go in.

Denis: There's a history built up. One of the things that we've put into Too Human that's not in a lot of games is a digital archive. It's a detailed history readout of the game itself. If you want to find out what happened between now and 2450, you can look it up in the history records.

GIA: So there must have been quite a bit of development and planning of the actual storyline and the world before other aspects of the game were fleshed out?

Denis: Absolutely. If you think about the fact that we developed the actual content before Kain, we've had a lot of time to think about it. And it's those kind of things that I think create great content. We're not a company that suddenly creates an idea and then throws it together in a month, saying "Okay, here's the game we're doing." We've got a lot of concepts that are always continually going that go on that we work on for years before we come out with them. And I think that's the way it has to be because you can't create good content any other way. It has to be well thought out, and everyone has to have a passion for it. The fact that you're going to have a team that's going to work on a project for as long as we have, the team has to be behind it; has to be passionate. Otherwise it's going to die. You've heard of all the nightmares that have gone on for six years, have had seven teams, yada yada yada, we're not like that. Some places have a problem keeping a visionary on a team. We have several visionaries on all our projects. There's not a single visionary on Too Human -- there's several, same with Eternal Darkness. Keeping that vision is what's important, knowing what direction we'd like to go on.

Denis: We are concerned at all times about disc space because going over four discs would be relatively insane, and we don't want to do that. If we had a DVD, it'd be less of a problem. Who knows, maybe we will be the first game company to have a multiple DVD game when it's time?

Denis: One of the interesting things about the technology, and the way we looked at the media with the technology -- which is really the same thing, in many ways -- there's no limit to the size of levels we have. We can literally create a level that goes on forever. The player would never notice...we just load what we need, and then you just keep going. Mind you, we don't do that, but we have the ability to.

Ken: We had time to think about it, because the proposal for Too Human was worked on and started before the proposal for Kain. Basically, it's been in the back of our minds for a long time. As soon as Kain stopped, Too Human kind of took off. Concepts were going back until 1993, as well. And then the long hard road until where we are now started.

Denis: Certainly, within the plot, there's a lot of plot lines going on at the same time. Will you be able to communicate with individuals in the levels, and the enemies? Yes, definitely. Will you be able to use that communication to your advantage? Yes, definitely. That's probably all I should say about it right now.

Denis: Even as you can see the flight sequence to the prison, all the character interaction that's going on there, every character in there develops on their own. Every character. A lot of that will happen in ways people will not be able to predict.

Denis: Yes, we let the player do what they want. From that perspective, Too Human is really a game of choice. We leave the choice up to the individual. By the time you finish the game, you'll understand the choices you have made. There are some that are inherent, and there are some that aren't. Some are above the surface, while there are some that are subliminal.

Denis: Here is a bit of trivia. The concept for Too Human was created before Kain. The "Soul Reaver" was actually a weapon in Too Human before I decided to move it over to Kain during its development.

Denis: We have a constant queue of concepts that we would like create. Often we work on concepts for years before they become a reality. As I mentioned earlier the concept of Too Human was older then the concept for Kain and thus Too Human had several years of discussion before we started work on it. We have many new concepts that we will introduce as time goes on but unfortunately we can’t talk about those yet. All of games usually have very detailed story arcs and the whole story is too big to tell in one game. So sequels or follow-ups are natural process of how we create games here. So you can expect both =).

Denis: The systems are very different and NGC is much better then Playstation so it would be an injustice not to make it better - much better. All good games take a long time do (IMHO). =). FMV will be much better on NGC.

Q on to too human: it looks great, how much FMV do you think will be it? will it be alot of FMV (via squares FF7,8,9's) or will it use it sparingly?

Denis: will be a ton - probably more than the FF series. =) - Expect many surprises in this area.

Denis: beginning of the game you play the role of undercover police officer. You are infiltrating a corporate security force. Anymore would be a spoiler.

Q: Too Human is using FMVs, right? Well will they look obviously different from ingame graphics? Because that really annoys a lot of people.

Denis: One of the goals of Too Human is to seamlessly integrate the two. Hopefully, you will not notice the difference.

Denis: However, I believe that you have already taken the first step into liking Too Human. Without commenting or giving anything away, you are thinking exactly the way we want you to think before you start the game. The beginning is set up specifically for those who think like you. By the time you have finished Too Human your thinking will have changed =). This is one game that is definitely not one dimensional with one-dimensional characters. You can expect something original, very intelligent and cerebral at many levels.

Denis: With all of this in mind we constantly work at making the enemies as believable as possible. Think of our approach similar to that of an actor playing the part of a police officer. To the audience, he is a police officer even though in reality he is just playing a part. I hope this answers your questions about this topic.

Denis: When we create stories for our games we create the background universe for them first. This process sometimes takes years - we work on concepts for a long time before they generally go into production. Too Human was first conceived some time in 1994 I believe. By the time we finish creating the story for the game it usually averages around 1/10 of the content that was created.

Denis: Without getting specific, we plan to create interesting features in every game we create. Story is only one of five other critical areas that we believe are needed to create a great game. The others are audio, art, technology and gameplay. Having a game strong in all five of these areas is what we believe the key to creating a successful game. I believe I first spoke of this concept which we coined “Engagement Theory” in 1995 at the Game Developers Conference.

Denis: We talk about this often, and I am very happy to say yes. We believe that both stories are much, much better. Although the story in Kain (Blood Omen) will always be close to our hearts, it was our first attempt at story telling. I believe we have learned much since then and our content now is much deeper and richer. Ken McCulloch and I wrote the Kain story, and we gained much from that experience. We used all this knowledge for both ED and TH and you can expect to use it in our future games.

Q: We have recently seen some FMV shots of Too Human released by IGNCube (we've seen some others, too, that someone "stumbled" across ). I have to say that those shots are AMAZING, but then again, aren't all FMV shots amazing? What I want to know is will the actual in-game grpahics be similar in terms of graphical quality to those FMV shots. I recall reading somewhere someone saying that FMV and in-game graphics are almsot indistinguishable on the Gamecube.

Denis: As surprising as this may sound, I will go as far as to say now that our in-game work in better (much better) then those old FMA shots. We do not think that you will be disappointed in this regard.

Q: Do you all plan on taking advantage of the Gamecube's online capabilities?"

Denis: Without question, YES!!!!!.

Denis: Although we are not saying too much about Too Human, my guess is that most people will classify it as an action adventure because it is all real-time. However there are many role playing elements within the game so opinions may differ.

Denis: Guess I started something here. Hehe. Anyway, I’m not going to show anything Too Human at this point but instead refer to Eternal Darkness. One is and old FMV shot Too Human while the others are unedited screen shots from ED. I stand by what I said.


Silicon Knights ist u.a. bekannt geworden durch:

Blood Omen: Legacy of Kain, Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem und Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes.

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Dienstag, 11. Oktober 2005, 21:06

Hoffentlich lässt der Hauptmakker im Spiel auch nen paar coole Sprüche fahren.

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Dienstag, 11. Oktober 2005, 21:09

Naja, es muss nich alles pseudocool wirken, nur damit die heutige "Coolness" wieder mal zur Schau gestellt wird. ;) Denn dadurch können diverse Spiele an den Rand der Lächerlichkeit gezogen werden. :) Freu mich auf das Spiel, dass es nach so langer Odyssee auf die X360 geschafft hat.

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Dienstag, 11. Oktober 2005, 21:32

Zitat

Original von ZZ°Jeyz
Hoffentlich lässt der Hauptmakker im Spiel auch nen paar coole Sprüche fahren.


meiner meinung nach hat nur einer das recht ständig coole sprüche abzulassen.
der gute alte DUKE NUKEM 8)

alle andern sollten es nicht übertreiben. ab und zu ein cooler spruch ja, aber soviel wie der duke :(

ich bin schon die ganze zeit am suchen, ob es evtl. noch mehr bilder gibt oder noch ein video, aber ich hab kein glück.
wer also was hat ;)

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Dienstag, 11. Oktober 2005, 23:50

Das mit Duke wollte ich eigentlich auch posten. :) Hast vollkommen recht! Liegt wohl daran, dass er sich selbst nicht ernst nimmt und deswegen cool rüberkommt.

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Mittwoch, 12. Oktober 2005, 00:03

bei IGN sind ja auf einmal 2 filmchen. schade das ich kein member bin und das dicke filmchen anschauen kann.

ähm, das zweite filmchen scheint das selbe wie von vor 7 tagen zu sein ;(
zumindest hab ich auf die schnelle keinen unterschied erkennen könne. bis auf das dieses neue frei zugängliche video ein wenig größer ist.

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Freitag, 24. März 2006, 23:56

jubel, jubel, freu, freu...
endlich neues zu too human

hier die front news. http://www.xboxfront.de/news-877-3242-Too_Human.html

das spiel wird sicher cool. die E3 wird dieses jahr ein fest :bounce:

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Samstag, 25. März 2006, 20:18

Ich finds total geil, und wenn es zum Weihnachtsgeschäft kommt kann ich mir das dann ja gleich wünschen.^^

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Samstag, 25. März 2006, 20:31

jup vorallem der angebliche schnelle aktion einstieg und die sehr einfachen rollenspiel elemente sind sicher sehr spielspass fördernd.
zur grafik muss man wohl nicht viel sagen, denn die wird sowieso 1a.

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Samstag, 25. März 2006, 20:38

Wollen wirs hoffen, gibts man schon Szenen von draussen? Ausser Screens.

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Samstag, 25. März 2006, 20:46

nö, leider noch nicht, aber ich denk da wird die e3 auch wieder eine überraschung parat haben.
ich weis ich kling wie eine alte schallplatte, aber ich glaub die e3 wird dieses jahr der hammer.

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Samstag, 25. März 2006, 20:51

Das glaub ich auch, kanns kaum noch erwarten, vorallem was Bungie und Rare noch macht.

Und zum Topic: Mal gucken was der noch für Schußwaffen haben wird. Die fetzten bestimmt auch.

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